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Friday, November 25th, 2011
12:47 pm
[mylifemyfaith]
Is homosexual practice compatible with classical Anglicanism? What about the ordiation of women?
Lately, I have been re-evaluating my position on homosexual practice, based on my own experiences, the consensus of the worldwide church, and what seems to be the undivided consensus of the Fathers. In essence, it seems that most of the people who share my conviction that the Creeds and the early Fathers are central to an Anglican reading of scripture do not share my belief that committed, monogamous gay relationships can be considered Christian marriages. Furthermore, my own use of my own homosexual orientation has not been very god-honoring, to the point that I now think that at least for now, complete celibacy, even to the level of fantasies and masturbation, is the best option for me. And it seems like pro-gay societies are secular societies. So I find myself slipping unhappily to a more conservative position on same-sex relationships, just after I joined a church which takes a more liberal line on such things.

However, the Fathers are also consistently against ordaining women as priests, but world Anglicanism has accepted that this innovation is within an Anglican reading of Scripture. If we accept one innovation, why not the other. If the answer is that one innovation grosses out some people, and the other doesn't, then the innovation of same-sex unions IS compatible with classical Anglicanism, and a lot of the Anglican Communion needs to get over itself. If the ordination of women is not acceptable, than Anglicanism has failed and we all need to become RC or Orthodox, because clearly Tradition must be completely unchanging if we are to remain faithful Christians in our current culture. If the Anglican Communion is right that being a woman priest is OK but being a priest in a same sex union is not, what distinguishes the two innovations? Proponents of both have produced readings of Scripture in support of their positions, despite the traditional Scriptural prohibitions of both. What makes pro-woman-priest readings of scripture less esigetical then pro-gay ones?

Thoughts? I could really use some help with my current discernment process. I hope this post doesn't just lead to a flame war- if it does I will delete the whole thing.
Friday, November 11th, 2011
2:03 pm
[alasthai]
If not, then what?
If you were in a place where there were no Anglican church in which to worship, to what other church would you go? Where would you never go, even if it were the only available church?

Current Mood: curious
Tuesday, August 23rd, 2011
11:08 am
[alasthai]
To puff, or not to puff?
A friend recently made a link to this article, and I find such puff pieces difficult to read. Now, Anglicanism (and especially the breadth thereof) was what brought me back to church after losing my faith completely: it gave me a faith in which I could believe. I really, quite unashamedly love it.

Yet, when I read the article, I cannot help but also think of Soupers, Catholic Penal Laws, Test Acts, and, of course, all of the vandalism attendant upon the Dissolution of the Monasteries. This reminds me of the purpose and value of the Κυριε ελεησον in the liturgy: the repeated request to Christ to continue to be merciful to us because we know that we will continue to screw up in the future as we have screwed up in the past.

While I am not saying that we should scourge ourselves for our sins, it very much seems to me that we should not ignore them either: we should embrace our fallenness and God's Grace together.

What do you think?

Current Mood: contemplative
Tuesday, June 1st, 2010
7:53 pm
[dezhnyuk]
Help, help, help
I was seeking to buy a new copy of 1979BCP&Bible, and became lost in numerous editions...Any recomendations?In this case, quality is more important than price...
Saturday, February 20th, 2010
3:24 pm
[adele87]
Does this mean the ACNA is part of the Anglican Communion now?
http://anglicanchurch.net/index.php/main/page/76/
Tuesday, December 22nd, 2009
12:10 am
[adele87]
Hi all,
I'm going to be confirmed in the ECUSA in the spring (either before or after Lent). I joined this community since you guys seem a little more active then the Episcopal community. Is it okay that I am here? The Episcopal Church is still considered "Anglican" since it's within the Anglican Communion, but there is also the Anglican Church of North America now, so if this is limited to ACNA and I am not welcome here, let me know.

Thanks.

Merry Christmas!
Thursday, October 29th, 2009
6:00 pm
[cmaried]
Confused

I am having trouble understanding something. While Christians are instructed to take Communion, I don't understand how Christ currently offers Himself as a sacrifice in the Eucharist, when He already offered Himself on the Cross "once and for all", and declared that it was "finished". I've read part of the Catechism, but can't find anything that directly answers my question. 

Why would Jesus say His sacrifice is "once and for all" if He is currently being resacrificed in the Eucharist? 
 
I haven't looked up any Anglican articles yet, but will continue searching and hopefully come to a sound conclusion..soon.:-/

Current Mood: confused
Tuesday, October 20th, 2009
11:47 pm
[cmaried]
Since it's been posted everywhere but here...Roman Catholic-Anglican Ecumenism

Roman Catholic church to receive Anglicans

Pope Benedict approves decree setting up worldwide institution to receive Anglican groups

rowan williams

The Anglican archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, listens as the Catholic archbishop of Westminster, Vincent Nichols, speaks during a news conference in London. Photograph: Matt Dunham/AP

Thousands of Anglicans could defect to the Roman Catholic church after the pope today approved a new global institution to receive them.

It will be the first time since the Reformation in the 16th century that entire Protestant communities have reunited with Rome. The first group likely to take advantage of the new rules is the Traditional Anglican Community (TAC), which broke off from the rest of the community in 1991 and claims to have more than 500,000 members worldwide.

Other groups unhappy with developments in the Anglican Communion are also expected to accept the invitation from the Vatican. Traditionalists, including thousands in the Church of England, have long threatened to defect to Rome over issues such as the ordination of women and gay people.

Reflecting the importance of the initiative, the pope set out the new arrangements in an apostolic constitution, the highest form of pontifical decree, and press conferences were held simultaneously in London and the Vatican to announce it.

In Ecclestone Square, the administrative headquarters of the Catholic Church of England and Wales, the Anglican archbishop of Canterbury and the Catholic archbishop of Westminster sat side by side on the top table in a show of unity, but the choice of location reflected the shift in power.

Both men played down any suggestion of tension brought on by the decision, but the unease became apparent in the question and answer session that followed.

The archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, informed journalists that he only heard about the apostolic constitution "a couple of weeks ago" and that there was no input from or consultation with Lambeth Palace. His face reddened as he spoke and, at one point, the archbishop of Westminster, Vincent Nichols, answered questions relating to Williams's leadership and authority.

Williams said: "I do not think this constitution will be seen as in any sense a commentary on Anglican problems offered by the Vatican. It is a response to this range of requests and inquiries from a very broad variety of people, either Anglican or of Anglican heritage. In that sense it has no negative impact on the relations of the communion as a whole to the Roman Catholic church as a whole. It is not an act of aggression, it is not a statement of no confidence. It is business as usual."

Benedict's chief theological adviser, the US cardinal William Levada, who heads one of the most important Vatican departments, said the decree had been drawn up "to respond to the numerous requests that have been submitted to the Holy See by groups of Anglican clerics and believers from various parts of the world who wish to enter into full and visible communion" with Rome.

He said that, under the new arrangements, Anglican communities that joined the Catholic church would be able to keep their own liturgy while remaining outside the existing dioceses. Their pastoral care would be entrusted instead to their own senior prelates, who would not necessarily become Catholic bishops. This is a way around the problem that in the Catholic church, as in the Orthodox churches, married men are not allowed to become bishops.

Sunday, February 15th, 2009
1:28 pm
[balthrop]
For Parents: When Do We Start Bringing Kids To "Big Church" Instead of the Nursery?
(cross posted to anglicanand episcopal
Simon turned 3 in January. He has come to church with me since he was born. Before I joined the choir, I regularly left the service during the offertory and brought Simon into the service to receive a blessing when I partake of communion. As he has gotten older he has naturally gotten more wiggly and more vocal. With sivib not coming to church with me, I am responsible for teaching Simon how to behave in Church.Simon loves the sanctuary and when he sees me come get him, he always says "we go sing songs, Papa?" (his name for Worship is logical to me because what is the main thing that goes on when he is there?) I am beginning to think, however, that 3 is a bit young for him to be in "big church" even for communion. This fall he'll move up to the Children's Service that Christ Church runs along with Sunday School for the kids (that starts for kids who are at least 3 in September of every year).

My initial thought was to expose him to the service little by little (i.e. communion). How do you folks with small children teach them how to act in the service and at what age do you think is appropriate to "take them out of the nursery"?

Current Mood: thoughtful
Saturday, November 15th, 2008
5:39 pm
[balthrop]
Fort Worth Votes 80%-20% To Leave TECUSA
...and join the Southern Cone.


Is Her Grace the Presiding Bishop now using a boiler plate to respond to all increasing number of dioceses and churches leaving?


Bishop Stanton of Dallas, however, refuses to move (quoting the Dallas Morning News today):

Bishop Stanton, who has sided with Bishop Iker in many church controversies, said that 80 percent of his parishioners had concerns about the direction of the national church. But 80 percent of them weren't troubled enough to want to leave.

The Dallas Diocese has seen some conservative churches leave on their own, including the large, influential Christ Church in Plano. But Bishop Stanton is disinclined to follow the lead of his close friend Bishop Iker.

"We're not going anywhere," Bishop Stanton said. "If I've heard it said once, I've heard it said a thousand times: You don't win a battle by leaving the battlefield."



Current Mood: happy
Monday, July 14th, 2008
2:20 pm
[friarjohn]
Assize Day
175 years ago today the Rev. John Keeble preached a sermon to Assize Court while it was sitting in Oxford.
This was not an extraordinary event. The Church of England is the Establish Church of the Kingdom and the preacher was one of the most renown Churchmen of his era. He was only the second person in the History of Oxford to achieve a "Double First" and was the Professor of Poetry.

What was exceptional was the content of the sermon. He, against all precedent since the 17th century, preached a sermon with content.

The first two paragraphs of the Sermon follows:Read more...Collapse )

The entire text is here.

This is generally seen as the beginning of the Oxford Movement. It would trigger the Tracts for the Times under the editorship of John H. Newman and caused a stir that lasts to this day. The Movement was defined by it's belief in the catholic heritage of the Church of England and her daughter churches, it's adherence to the Church Fathers and a distrust of evangelicals and "enthusiasts" alike. They were dedicated to expanding the missionary impulse of the Church and to reenergize the moribund Establishment. The current shape of the Book of Common Prayer for the Episcopal Church relates to the work of the Movement, as do the Prayer Books of most of the Anglican communion.

In light of the anniversary and the upcoming Lambeth Conference (another piece of the legacy of the Movement), many are spending an hour in prayer for the continuance of the Movement and the health of the Anglican Communion.
Saturday, July 5th, 2008
10:57 am
[drben54]
Godspeed Fr. Jake
This week, one of the leading voices in chronicling the events and factions in today's Episcopal Church hung up his pen and closed down his weblog.  "Father Jake Stops the World" was a regular staple in my understanding what was happening in our Diocese and the neighboring Dioceses of San Joaquin (both Southern Cone and ECUSA).

After the recent GAFCON conference in Jerusalem, which resulted in the Communion remaining strained but intact, "Jake" (actually a Vicar in a peaceful looking church in an undisclosed location) figured he needed to have a break.

I wish "Fr. Jake" peace in his retirement.  And I pray that awakened, we on the edge of the breakaway churches and diocese, will work to continue God's ministry in our life and someday work for reconciliation with our neighbors in the "Southern Cone".  For here in Sacramento, they literally are our neighbors and in many cases our friends.

Current Mood: cheerful
Friday, March 21st, 2008
4:11 pm
[balthrop]
Good Friday Reminder From An Unlikely Source
cross posted to episcopal

My son (age 2) came into my office, climbed up on the chair that is next to my window, and grabbed the iron Celtic cross that was sitting on the table.

I hold cross, Papa he said. It was 1 P.M.


His name is Simon. Out of the mouthes of babes...

Current Mood: thoughtful
Friday, March 14th, 2008
3:57 pm
[susanne2]
HE'S ALIVE! an easter hymn what I wrote

He's alive!
the world shall hear it
Jesus risen from the dead
let the heralds far and near it
"see where your Lord lay"
the angels did say
"He is not here,
have no more fear"
Jesus is alive.
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He's alive!
nature's course defeating
Jesus risen from the dead
Satan's wrath and malice cheating
glad tidings go tell
your sorrow dispel
death's sting is gone
the Victor has won
Jesus is alive.
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He's alive!
the battle's over
since He rose up from the grave
earth's four corners will discover
God's promise is real
and this is the seal
pardon is sure
and life ever more
Jesus is alive.
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Alleluia! Jesus is alive.

Wednesday, March 12th, 2008
10:48 am
[tonsison]
Theology & Film in Dialogue
Interested in the interdisciplinary study of Theology and Film?

Join the discussion at THEO+CINEMA: http://tonsison.livejournal.com/








Friday, January 11th, 2008
7:31 am
[momof2girls]
Lent is Close Upon Us!
When we sing the "Holy, Holy, Holy" during Lent, are we supposed to leave out the "blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord" because of the Hosannas? This issue came up in choir practice last night and no one was really sure. Does anyone know the theological answer to this? From a common-sense perspective, it's logical.

Thanks.

(cross-posted to episcopal)

Current Mood: busy
Monday, December 24th, 2007
9:12 am
[balthrop]
Some Days It's Good To Be Anglican
Programming Alert: The BBC World Service and Radio4 in the UK are currently (10 AM CST) broadcasting Lessons and Carols from Kings' College Cambridge. For those of us in the USA, that's XM 141 or on the web at bbcworldservice.com


Why is it good to be Anglican: I recognized the service by the opening hymm. :-)
Sunday, December 23rd, 2007
1:39 pm
[balthrop]
Found in the Church Bulletin This Morning
Thanks to Father Greg Methvin at Christ Church for this message that was printed in the church worship "home page" handout this morning. You will see why it caught my attention at once.




Dear Friends

I stumbled upon a fragment from a poem entitled After Annunciation by Madeline L'Engle. These few lines have been an unexpected path to Bethlehem for me:

This is the irrational season,
When love blooms bright and wild
Ha Mary been filled with reason,
There have been no room for the child
.


The irrational season... what a different way to describe Christmas. As a [reacher, I spend a lot of time making the miraculous and mysterious seem reasonable. I'm only following Peter's advice when he writes ...be always ready to give an answer to every man that asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you . (1 Peter 3:15)


So how old was Mary when she had Jesus? Were there three wise men or three gifts? Did God make a special star for the occasion of Jesus birth or can astronomy explain the phenomenon naturally? Why would angels visit homeless shepherds? Why would God ever think that squeezing into swaddling clothes was the best way to save the world? Good questions, but their answers lave the manger mostly empty. In fact, you can talk until Easter and still not fully explain it all.

What stands out in Jesus birth story is not the cold, hard logic of why it had to be this way, but the daring leaps that God, Mary, Joseph, and all the rest of the cast made in order to give us Christmas. This year, I need less explanation and more participation in this love love blooming bright and wild.

If you are looking for Jesus, you may want to leave the bifocals of science and philosophy in the drawer. Instead, through prayer, song and deed, fill your days with bright bursts of love for God and others. Many report that in the practice of spontaneous praise and irrational generosity, angels, wise men, and especially Jesus have been sited.





Merry Christmas!

Current Mood: happy
Saturday, November 3rd, 2007
7:35 pm
[annwfyn]
Baptised & Confirmed
Today was my baptism and confirmation.

I was baptised and confirmed by the Bishop of London in St Pauls Cathedral, along with 50 others from an assortment of churches around London.

Some rambling - maybe slightly confused - cross posted to my own journalCollapse )

Current Mood: bouncy
Sunday, October 7th, 2007
5:34 pm
[momof2girls]
This morning my 8-year-old daughter kept getting up and moving around while she was supposed to be having breakfast. I was in the kitchen, and I told her, "Sit! Eat!"

She promptly responded, "Do this in remembrance of me."

At least I know she's listening during the services . . . .

(cross-posted to episcopal)

Current Mood: amused
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